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Hello. It’s me, the hairy man in the video. Sadly I don’t have much progress to report since this was filmed at the end of October. I managed to improve the 4chan lower bound by one, but I think it’s fair to say we’re pretty stuck again after a period of rapid progress and wild optimism. We still haven’t been able to bring the upper bound down by one, but I still reckon it should be possible. I’m hoping someone here will have some good ideas! Комментарий от : @RobinHouston |
The Lin-Kernighan heuristic for the TSP problem was devised by Shen Lin and Brian Kernighan Комментарий от : @panographic |
Did the people who designed that board never test it out or are they all deaf? Комментарий от : @rogerszmodis6913 |
No screens from 4chan? Why not. Комментарий от : @Netbase2000 |
anybody have the entire number sequence of the super permutation of 14. I need it to show my friends what they're getting themselves into. Комментарий от : @ThisIsMadnessPeople |
The bottomless Nerdpower of Weebs can only be harnessed when you feed it to them in a context that they thrive in. Комментарий от : @te0nani |
The superpermutation of A,B, and C is wrong, AB, and BA come twice, the two A's at the Ends are unnecessary!!! Комментарий от : @michaelvaller |
Anime is for loosers 4chan: let me introduce my self Комментарий от : @pakshd5378 |
This is incredible, just one question as a non mathematician. To my understanding, 4chan didn't really solved it right? More like it became a draft for the formula Robin made but then the other guy made another one that had nothing to do? What was the concrete discovery 4chan made and does it still holds for today? Комментарий от : @Andmau2552 |
Ramanujan, that Plummer that beat Einstein, discoverer of a single apereodic tile, kids who discovered the telescopic effect and now this guy; It seems like the world likes to give us a middle finger every now and again. Комментарий от : @johnacetable7201 |
To give slightly more context of why that was even being discussed in 4chan: There is this highly popular classic anime called The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya (yes, that one with the dance). This show was released in a particular order during the original TV airing, as to make sure the climax of the story was closer to the end, ignoring chronological events. But then for the DVD release the studio decided to change the order of the episodes to the cronological one. Not satisfied, in the re-releases, there was one with the first half chronological and the second as released in the TV airing, and then another airing where the made the opposite with the first half in release and second half in chronological. Not just that, but fans made their own watch orders as to highlight some aspect of the show. From this some guy asked how long would it take to watch ALL possible combinations and the discussion escalated from that. Комментарий от : @ggwp638BC |
5:57 : So...."No Fs Given" Комментарий от : @_abdul |
They literally named it "Haruhi Problem" after the anime. Комментарий от : @optie5 |
anime lmao Комментарий от : @deleted-something |
lol Комментарий от : @deleted-something |
"Well ive brought some Es" Oh now were talking Комментарий от : @postminchoppa |
I assumed the only math problem 4chan could solve would be related to pedophile density or something Комментарий от : @andrewbloom7694 |
"So how do you think your proof for lower bounds of superpermutations will help mathematics?" "Mathematics?" Комментарий от : @mcdonalds5972 |
```python def getSuperPermutation(n): result = [0] for value in range(n): nextResult = [] for i in range(len(result) - value): pattern = result[i:i+value+1] nextResult = nextResult + pattern + [value + 1] + pattern result = nextResult # array will always be symetrical so remove the middle index if len(result) % 2 == 0: middleIndex = int(len(result) / 2) del result[middleIndex] return result print(getSuperPermutation(5)) ``` Комментарий от : @julienbongars4287 |
Couldn't this be used in genealogy, so it can't be too not useful. Комментарий от : @carlitopuente6489 |
The Comments 90% anime 5% 4chan 4% poo poo pee pee 1% superpermutations Комментарий от : @Meatwad.Baggins |
Why are they called superpermutations and not just supermutations? Комментарий от : @timothymclean |
4chan4cha4ncha4cnha4chna4ch4anch4acnh4achn4ach4nach4canh4cahn4cah4ncah4cnah4c4hanc4hacn4hac4nhac4hnac4hcan4hca4nhca4hnca4hcna4hc4anhc4ahnc4ahcn4ahc4nahc4 Комментарий от : @dude157 |
9:30 what determined the weights? Комментарий от : @DFsdf3443d |
Whoever chose that markerboard deserves to be fired lol. That squeal hurts my soul Комментарий от : @aarcxnum |
Supermutation ahaha (There are bugs living inside your skin) Комментарий от : @ranchdressing9308 |
is there anything 4chan cant do given the right motivation? They found Shai LaBeouf's flag, solved a few cold cases, and now superpermutations.. I bet 4chan could find a cure for all cancers, but it might require anime in some way.. Комментарий от : @krumplethemal8831 |
I think the footage filmed with the left camera (showing your back) has offset audio? Комментарий от : @ommadawnDK |
Never forget what prompted all this to begin with. Praise to our god, Haruhi Suzumiya. Комментарий от : @MafiaCow01 |
I am SO GLAD you included that short correction at 12:15 it was driving me mad, and I know you only included it because you knew SOMEONE would be mad if you didn't. Комментарий от : @asymptotex8662 |
Fascinating! 4chan does math that isn't related to the number 13%! Комментарий от : @jay-tbl |
Least intelligent Haruhi fans Комментарий от : @namesurname8474 |
Ah yes, the first achievments of the quasihivemind known as internet! Комментарий от : @slavicprogrammer6100 |
4 just do a complited math just to watch an anime Комментарий от : @aksachannel287 |
I want to see how in Python to call by nth/demand each Flat Permutation -- def flat_permu(nth, baselength=4, base=3) flat_permu(10, 9, 5) equals [0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,1] flat_permu(nth, 3, 3)... 000 001 010 100 002 011 020 101 110 200 003 012 021 030 102 111 120 201 210 300 013 022 031 103 112 121 130 202 211 220 301 310 023 032 113 122 131 203 212 221 230 302 311 320 033 123 132 213 222 231 303 312 321 330 133 223 232 313 322 331 233 323 332 333 flat_permu(30, 3, 3) equals [1,3,0] Комментарий от : @ThankYouESM |
Why not just use the Simplex method? Комментарий от : @Trizzer89 |
Add "Anon on a math paper" to the list of analogies in "That Funny Feeling" Комментарий от : @kireitonsi |
"Can't we do the n = 4 case?" "Yes, uhm, I think we can." "Good, because I brought with me some D's" Classy, Matt... Комментарий от : @jan_kulawa |
Good Weebu Hunting Комментарий от : @Taporeee |
This is fascinating stuff! The way that these people find new ways to think about old problems blows my mind. Комментарий от : @kentslocum |
I had no idea Seth Rogan is British Комментарий от : @ObsessiveClarity |
"I brought some Es" That must've made it a lot easier. Комментарий от : @SaltpeterTaffy |
If we gave 4chan the control of all the world's problems, within a decade we would either have Faster than light travel or a nuclear apocalypse. Комментарий от : @corous7880 |
12:15 thank you Комментарий от : @seppforcher4714 |
Hey, Math! You've promised us new breakthroughs in upcoming years. 2 years have already passed, where are new videos?! %) Комментарий от : @MentalCycle |
Thank you for fixing it at @12:15 it was driving me nuts. Комментарий от : @Articulo-Mortis |
mathematician Forchelein? wasn't he an intelligence agent striking ISIS training camps? Комментарий от : @derederekat9051 |
that squeaky board is just waiting to be smashed to smithereens... Комментарий от : @mrnitro30103 |
I feel like I don’t understand the reasoning behind how the minimal superpermutation for n = 3 is constructed. It seems like a pattern is that you typically start with ABC…n, then write ABC…(n-1) where n is the nth symbol and so on. But then from there I’m not sure how you keep going or how to apply it to n = 4 case. Комментарий от : @josueramirez7247 |
If you're here for the 4chan bit, it's 12:14. Thank me later Комментарий от : @wombatpandaa9774 |
I feel like these would be better visualised in dimensions. when looking at the original expansion ab you mirror it, to get the alternate, -1. the original character you are ignoring. when adding the third character if you could add it in another dimension how would that look. rather than ABC C AB and count the permutations as dimensional mirrors this makes sense then of the n-1 format for presenting the data. Basically you'd be looking at something similar to the holographic principle where 3d data can be represented on a 2d sheet and I would expect it continues. I'm probably drawing connections that don't actually work for someone who knows the topic better. Комментарий от : @kosgoth |
4ch time and time again proves themselves to be superior to all others, especially reddit the hive mind censored left wing loophole Комментарий от : @sulkoma |
Squeaky board! C'mon man! This is 21st century! We can do better than that! Комментарий от : @thelazy0ne |
3Blue1Brown supports you? Whoa! Комментарий от : @denelson83 |
Interesting Комментарий от : @aerosma5021 |
4chan, a wretched hive of scum and villainy, but a place you can sometimes find something you can't find anywhere else. Комментарий от : @blueconcretezebra |
Ironically I’ve thought about this or something related at work as part of optimizing a tedious task of setting up all the possible permutations one by one Комментарий от : @robertb6889 |
I was told that factorials were the fastest growing number sequence. I think I found a new favourite number sequence. Комментарий от : @alextheumbreon1363 |
Proof that 4chan isnt made of only retards. Комментарий от : @mig-29 |
a 4chan user just want to watch a 14 episode of anime in best way possible Комментарий от : @heheh8877 |
4chan has the best degenerates or the best thinking mind no in between. Комментарий от : @shin1300 |
This feels like... the traveling tradesman problem. Комментарий от : @austingarcia6060 |
Who is this 4chan? Комментарий от : @cocktail7342 |
4chan: smart people acting like they are idiots. Twitter: idiots acting like they are smart people. Комментарий от : @uberfeel |
Proofs only allowed if time in that proof does'nt have all the same :54 seconds Комментарий от : @HtPu-mh1hs |
How oddly appropriate is it that this proof was formed out of Haruhi discussions. Комментарий от : @JerryFlowersIII |
12:27 "...Which is why I got in touch and said, Robin we have to do that video about super perms..." 12:28 (Oh god look at there permy hair... A perm pun is just staring me in the face.. Super perms with the Super perm! no... He knows a thing or two about 'super PERMS' no... Ugh I should have thought of this before. Maybe I can add it to the intro, or in the title? But I don't know Robin well enough to make hair jokes, and who am I to make hair jokes anyway? And what if Simon Pampena gets offended because he thinks he's 'The Super Perm' of maths?? And then neither of them ever guest appear again??... ugh, but it would have been so good. Oh well...) 12:29 "now!" (looks down. 'Darn it.') Комментарий от : @shanybiran468 |
We need to up our game in the yt comment section. Комментарий от : @1.4142 |
I think I found a formula that will be relatively close to the answer:the superpermutation for n will have ~n+n!+(n-1)!-2 Комментарий от : @andreizonga4611 |
Not sure why I'm watching two grown men play alphabet Uno in the middle of the night, but I like it Комментарий от : @ookjannesplanting1296 |
Where is Pi in all this? Seems circular math with no pattern.. sounds like Pi. Комментарий от : @jlondon1441 |
Really waited for Matt to bring out some Fs.....just for the reaction "Go F yourself " Комментарий от : @marcuswillbrandt5901 |
12:10 thank you for showing me the fix. It so annoying to look at. Комментарий от : @LW-zb8bf |
the squeaking marker makes my soul itch. I'm a secondary teacher; BRING BACK CHALK!! Комментарий от : @gullier1 |
We'd get more proofs like this if the math world didn't pride itself on being intellectually impenetrable and using a million useless symbols for everything. Комментарий от : @ianbryant |
He sounds like an engineer: "How did you solve this optimization?" "Well alot of ppl did some solvers for this type of problem, so I downloaded one of them and used it" LITERALLY me Комментарий от : @manoelguidialvares6903 |
lol @ the ghostposting on that thread Комментарий от : @mrosskne |
Anime fans are young and this helps with maths Комментарий от : @Kannot2023 |
damn lil dicky is rlly branching out Комментарий от : @cd-zw2tt |
its literally goodwill hunting Комментарий от : @merrick1384 |
So 6! Is 720 so you need minimum 725 cards for 6 Комментарий от : @whiteshadow8520 |
ew, 4chan Комментарий от : @flyingface |
12:10 : Most satisfying moment in the video. Комментарий от : @dpollitz |
> Electronic music starts > "I've brought some Es !" I like where this is going Комментарий от : @WaruWicku |
I cannot begin to describe how disappointed i was that the ABC superpermutation didn't contain ACAB :'( Комментарий от : @WaruWicku |
>be me >solve a complicated maths problem Комментарий от : @MariaHernandez-ps6rx |
ACAB lol Комментарий от : @firstnamelastname-zo5gd |
Does he look like seth rogen? Комментарий от : @bambapabbi |
the program (?) robin downloaded is a heuristic program, heuristic meaning something like not the best method but good enough for the intended purpose. the program is a souped up guess and check Комментарий от : @acookie7548 |
What an ingenious way to solve that problem! Комментарий от : @rajivnarayan5214 |
Looks like palindromes to me. Maybe all Superpermutations are palindromes? 0:36, 1:47, 3:06, 3:58 Комментарий от : @feroz0307 |
Take advantage of a self learning ai Комментарий от : @0Luna_ |
When I saw that this was about Haruhi, I assumed someone was trying to create a super permutation of the Endless Eight. I'm glad to say that no one was that cruel. Комментарий от : @o76923 |
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12:12 - thx!! Комментарий от : @Heroesflorian |
You should call these supermutations Комментарий от : @alonsobruni8131 |
The problem is ACAB Комментарий от : @MG30001 |
Anon et al. Комментарий от : @q.m9094 |
They say people do their best math in their early to mid 20s. That IS the main user base of 4chan Комментарий от : @52flyingbicycles |
At 9:04 the length 2 edge should be flipped from BCA -> CAB to CAB -> BCA Комментарий от : @tcanch |